The Boob Group
The Importance of Partner Support in Breastfeeding
Episode 4, July 2nd 2012
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Cassidy Freitas : Having a baby can cause a strain in any relationship, regardless of how strong that relationship is. Add in sleep deprivation and managing new roles as parents, parenthood can be exhausting. Breastfeeding moms may also feel an additional layer of stress and responsibility when they are the sole or main provider of nutrition for their babies. How can a partner or spouse support her, as well as bond with his or her child? I’m Cassidy Freitas, Marriage and Family Therapy Intern at the University of California, San Diego, and today we’ll be discussing the role of partner support in breastfeeding. This is the Boob Group, Episode 4.
Robin Kaplan: Welcome to the Boob Group broadcasting from the Birth Education Center of San Diego. I’m your host, Robin Kaplan. I’m also a Certified Lactation consultant and owner of the San Diego Breastfeeding Center. At the Boob Group, we are you online support group for all things related to breastfeeding. Wondering how you can become involved with our show? Visit our website at the https://www.theboobgroup.com where you can send us comments or suggestions through the contact link. Join the conversation on our Facebook page as well. You can call the Boob Group hotline at 619-866-4775. The Boob Group is also looking for listeners to join our blogging team. If you’d like to share your current or past experiences on breastfeeding, be sure to send us an email. Today, I’m joined by four partners in the studio. Would you all like to introduce yourselves please?
Mark Ranallo: Sure, I’m Mark Ranallo. I’m 32. I am a computer programmer and I have a daughter who is five and a half months old.
Jonathan Wilt: I’m Jonathan Wilt. I am 37. I work in Business Development and I have a young son, Carson, 16 months.
Buddy Owen: I’m Buddy Owen. I’m 40 years old. I am a pastor in England. I have two daughters, a four year old and a seven year old. Bella and Grace.
Alicia Champion: My names Alicia and I’m 30 years old and my partner Danielle and I just adopted a little boy, Lucian, nine months ago.
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Robin Kaplan: Well, let’s kick off today’s episode with an amazing breastfeeding story that is making headlines around the internet. And this story will also be posted on the Boob Group Pintrest Board if you want to check it out. So this is the article and I would just love to hear your thoughts on it. And so Seattle City Council passes ordinance to protect public breastfeeding. So it’s already against Washington State Law to discriminate against public breastfeeding, but the Seattle City Council, a couple of weeks ago, specifically made it illegal for businesses and other entities to ask nursing moms to stop, cover-up or move to a different location in public areas. So I thought that was pretty amazing that Seattle went that forthright with what they believe in respecting a woman’s right to nurse in public. And I’m just kind of wondering what you all think about that as well.
Mark Ranallo: From my perspective, I...., it really changed after Lilly was born. I think I would have been a lot more bashful about seeing someone breastfeed before or actually seeing so often. Now, it’s just a child eating. I don’t even pay much attention to it. You can spot it now in public in places where I wouldn’t have been able to spot it before, but, I don’t even think about it really.
Robin Kaplan: Yeah, I think that’s great Mark, because if somebody was pulling out a bottle and bottle feeding a baby, you wouldn’t look twice, you know, but..., and that’s the same source of food, a beautiful source of food and also attachment. So I think it’s great, you know, that your sort of vision of that has changed.
Alicia Champion: Yeah, I come from a pretty progressive background and so you know, my whole family, you know, we are just, you know, about time! This is exciting and I’m hoping that this legislation will set off a chain reaction to other states. You know, this is good, you know, because it is..., it’s absolutely..... You know I think it’s a very westernized mentality, you know, to be shameful about this. You know you look at other, other cultures, you know...., you know, who have...., live in much less developed areas. You know, there’s just no shame. It’s just, this is what you have to do, you know? This is your child’s survival. Just pull it out and do it. You know and so hopefully, we can, you know, just diminish the shame element of this, because that’s all it’s all about, you know, its other people feeling shameful, you know. So this is exciting. Yeah. Let’s just hope that it keeps moving forward.
Jonathan Wilt: Yeah, I think it’s good. We had some friends in Africa and they would walk around the markets and their baby would cry and the mothers would be screaming at them to just whip it out and throw it over their shoulder!
And they don’t need a law to protect that. That’s just how they survive. That’s how their children get their nutrition. So I think, as Americans, this nation should embrace it a lot more than we do. It’s like you said, it shouldn’t be shameful. You shouldn’t be ashamed of it, it’s a natural part of life. And that’s how we all got here in the first place, otherwise, we wouldn’t have survived.
Robin Kaplan: Absolutely. Buddy, do you notice anything different coming from England?
Buddy Owen: Yeah, I think in Europe there are much fewer inhibitions when it comes to breastfeeding. I’d never even thought about it till we had kids seven years ago. But being from the South East of America, would never have anticipated seeing someone breastfeed in public. But living in Europe it’s a common thing. Everyone does it and rarely do you see anyone even take a second glance.
Robin Kaplan: Today on the Boob Group, we are discussing the importance of Partner Support and Breastfeeding and Parenting in general. Our expert, Cassidy Freitas is a Marriage and Family Therapist Intern at the University of California in San Diego as well as a breastfeeding and working mom. Cassidy welcome to the show and thanks for joining us.
Cassidy Freitas : Thank you for having me.
Robin Kaplan: Sure. So just to start off, Cassidy, I’ve read studies about how a partner’s role greatly influences how long a mother will breastfeed for. How valuable do you think a partner’s or a husband’s support is to a new breastfeeding mom.
Cassidy Freitas : You know the greatest gift parents can give their baby is a loving relationship. The stronger the bond, the better the baby can grow both emotionally and physically. And, you know, a supportive partner is one of the most important factors in a satisfying breastfeeding experience and breastfeeding success. So it’s so important. Words can’t even really describe how important it is.
Robin Kaplan: Yeah, I remember telling my..., that my husband was definitely my cheerleader when I was learning to breastfeed our son. I remember one person saying to me that, you know, “Don’t worry about it. It’s okay if you give up. You are still going to be a great mom.” And my son was a barracuda and I pretty much cried everytime he woke up and started to route around and so it was my husband who was my main supports person, who just kept saying, “You can do it! You can do it!” And he was the one who actually got on the phone and called the Lactation Consultant to come over to our house to really help out. And so I know from personal experience how incredible it was to have him as this cheerleader. Panelists, how important do you think it was that you provided breastfeeding support to your partner or your spouse?
Mark Ranallo: I think it was..., I mean, I know it was crucial, just because it’s such a hard thing with the first child, I believe. You know, neither one of us, like, really knew too much about..., I mean you can read the books, but you don’t really know what you are doing till you bring the baby home and Amy, she had that extra responsibility of feeding the child, which I didn’t have. You know and it was kind of one of those things where its, “Okay, you got to do it. What can I do?”, you know, kind of feel like you are running with your chicken, with their head cut off, for a while, you know, trying to figure out what you can do to help, but, it’s that kind of, you know, just being there really helps, you know, because I think breastfeeding is probably a pretty easy thing to give up on, early on, if it’s difficult.
Robin Kaplan: Absolutely.
Mark Ranallo: Especially because pediatricians often, “Well you know, here’s some formula”. You get it when you leave the hospital. I mean, they give it to you. So, you know, if you make up your mind that’s what you want to do, then it’s great to have a support system nearby.
Alicia Champion: You know, our situation was, it’s a bit unique because you know, our son was adopted. We got him home right from the beginning, but because, you know, Danielle, who is nursing Lucian, didn’t have a lot of that natural build-up. You know, we, we...., it took a lot of work to get her to lactate regularly and you know, we were so fortunate we got to work with someone like Robin. But in the beginning, especially, her flow was very light and so it was..., it was a big team effort. You know, we both had to wake up and we both had to prepare the pre-pumped milk, you know, in the syringe and tape the tube to her breast and you know, kind of work on this together, so I felt, like I was playing a bigger role, you know, because, again, the situation was unique.
Robin Kaplan: How about the other panelists. What would you say about how important it was for your supporting?
Buddy Owen: Yeah, I think it was very important. I think again, it is easy to get away from breastfeeding. And you know, just give a bottle. Especially when the mom is having a difficult time. And my wife had a difficult time getting started and it was painful and it just really wasn’t working. And she started to feel bad about herself. You know, “I’m doing this properly, I....,” and then you know, moms are a bit vulnerable at that particular stage. And so they start feeling bad about themselves. They are not a proper mom now, because they can’t feed properly. I think just being able to be there and say “It's okay. And you know, even if this doesn’t work and you do have to go to a bottle, that will be okay.” But, we’re going to persevere and do whatever we can to make sure it works and I think it’s really important that the partner is there doing everything they can just to support the mom because it’s all about her.
Robin Kaplan: Yeah.
Jonathan Wilt: Yeah, I mean, I agree. I think going into it like Mark said, there is not enough education that you can, you know, get inside your head and you really look into reality when it all starts to happen. I think for me, the biggest thing was learning that you have to teach the child to breastfeed. I mean, everyone imagines the baby comes out and he will automatically know what to do. And they don’t. I mean we’ve been going through lactation consultants ourselves. It is just a learning process. And then through that, it just encouraged me to encourage her to keep it up. And I think, going into it, you have to be on the same page, so the partner understands they need support, and they need to be there to support them. And it’s like Buddy said, yeah, you can really get discouraged quickly. There is almost like”breastfeeding envy" in those groups where some moms are pumping and getting out 4 to 6 ounces and she’s only getting 2. You know, and for Casey, that was her case, and she was like “I’m only getting 2!” And he was feeding for 30 to 40 minutes. And I’m like, “Well, he’s getting enough, he’s okay.” It was through that process, she learned that “What I’m providing for my child is enough. That’s how I was designed.” Not everyone’s going to be the same. But, I mean a big part of it was to encourage her not to give up and to use all the tools at her disposal; The consultants and friends and their groups. I think that really helped her to be surrounded by other people who were like-minded and also in support of that, you know, breastfeeding their child.
Robin Kaplan: Panelists, how did you feel? What type of support did you offer to your partner or your wife? You’ve already kind of described Johnathan, you were talking about really just making sure that you’ve access to these support groups and to a lactation consultant, but, and Alicia you were talking about how, you know, helping to prepare these bottles for the supplemental nursing system and things like that. What other ways do you find that you were really supportive of your partners during this whole breastfeeding process?
Alicia Champion: Which is being that cheerleader, like we’ve all echoed here, you know. I mean, because, it’s so hard, it’s so hard, you know, the self doubt that you see your partner experience. Just being that cheerleader, just being that hand on the back, I think, I think was more helpful, than warming up the milk then taping that damned tube to her breast. You know, just persevering, and we had a similar thing also, also because Danielle was supplementing, so when she would pump, her amounts were very small. And the breastfeeding envy: absolutely! There was a period when we just stopped going to the group because it was really hard. We would bring him and he wouldn’t latch, he’d have trouble feeding and there were this embarrassment and there were these moms with these huge breasts ....
... and there this milk that would spring across the room and we were like “Why? What’s wrong with us?” you know and so, you know, but we worked on our own and finally came to a point where he was comfortable, where he finally figured out how to latch and oh, we sure returned to the group.
Mark Ranallo: You know, I kind of…, the support I would kind of give after a while, the way I was thinking of it was like, it was kind of like concierge service. You know, like when the baby was..., if she was having a hard time, then, you know, I kind of went into the male mind-set. I said, “Okay, how do I solve this problem. Alright, well, we need to a lactation consultant. Alright, and here’s a list. I’ll go through the list. I’ll call them”. So I call them all. And, you know, it was kind of like doing that so that she didn’t have to worry about doing that kind of stuff. I would do that stuff. It was just whatever she needed at the time, so that she only had to focus on one thing. Like oh, well, is it, you know, do we need to the doctor? Alright, I’ll make the appointment. We’ll go to the doctor. Do we need to go..., you know, do you want to go to the, you know, the boutique at the hospital? You know, there’s the New Beginnings Boutique or something. So we want to go there, okay, well then, you know, let’s go.
Robin Kaplan: Yeah.
Buddy Owen: Yeah, I think, a couple of things. I think, first of all just as you were saying, the hand on the back, the massaging your shoulders just to help her relax when she’s getting tense, because it’s just not working. But also, I think being there when the baby doesn’t need to be best breastfed to help take care of the baby so that mommy can rest. And I think that often, we forget how much energy it takes out of the mom doing the breastfeeding and then when the dad can be there to do the other things with and for the baby so that mom can rest when she gets the chance, I think is really important.
Cassidy Freitas : Well I just want to say how impressed I am by all the partners and you know fathers here. I think that you guys such an amazing job. Concierge service. I really, really like that. I think that there are some many ways that this dyad of mother, baby breastfeeding experience, can become a triad. Really. I do. And I think as a marriage and family therapist, I can talk about all the research that says how important this is and how necessary it is for actually, for breastfeeding to actually succeed. But I think for me, I want to speak more as a mom right now, a breastfeeding mom. And I think that it was not an easy road. And I think for many moms it’s not an easy road. You know, we went through a bout of mastitis, we went through antibiotics, which left a thrush with the baby and on my breasts, and cracked, bleeding, feeling shards of glass being..., it was not, it was not an easy road. And I think that the biggest thing that my husband did for me was just say “You are doing great!” He was that cheerleader. You know? And I think all of you guys spoke to that. And not just a cheerleader but also a gate keeper to all of the other opinions that people have, because there’s, there are lots of them. You know, “Maybe you need a supplement, maybe you need to stop.”You know? “It’s not working!”And he really served as a gate keeper. Not only the cheerleader, but the gate keeper to all the other opinions that are out there. And your role is just so important. I remember in the beginning, when breastfeeding was painful for me. Just having him there, just holding my hand and letting me squeeze it, while my toes were curling when she was latching on because it just didn’t feel right because it was painful in the beginning because we had an improper latch. And just being there. Yes, the bringing me water and making sure I ate, all those things were wonderful. But it was for me, the biggest piece was the emotional support which all of you guys and girls spoke to that I think is, is so important.
Robin Kaplan: And Cassidy since so much bonding does takes place during breastfeeding, what are other ways besides bottle-feeding once in a while. Can a mother and father bond and attach with this new baby?
Cassidy Freitas : That’s a great question and there are so many ways. First of all: play time. Dads are great players. And you know what? Research actually has shown that moms do a lot more sort of visual, visual play with kids and babies, and dads do much more physical tactile types of play with kids, both of which children need and babies need for development. And on top of that, there’s bath time, there is diaper time. Speaking of bath time, when I give my daughter a bath, I am very careful not to get water in her eyes, and I was noticing that when my husband got in the bath with her, he would pour water all over her face and she was getting water in her eyes and she was fine. Just because I don’t like water in my eyes, doesn’t mean that she doesn’t. And so, he really, he really was introducing these little things to her that I wasn’t. And so having him there was I think really important for her and is going to be important for her both emotionally and physically in her development. Wearing your baby: You know, I know that a lot of times wearing their babies, but men can wear their babies too, in slings, in carriers, around the house, out and about. You know taking the baby for a walk in the strollers, so mom can get some shower time, some just alone time. Cuddling your baby: You know dads and partners, they can cuddle their baby too. They can be affectionate with their baby too. Dads in particular, you know, they have those deep lower voices and they have those sometimes fuzzy chests, all of which can be really intriguing and comforting to a child. Relieving the baby’s gas: you know, there is the football hold, you know. I know my husband used to always drape our baby over his arm when she was gassy with his big hand on her belly and just kind of push on it, you’ll be surprised how quickly the gas, was released.
And helping to get to sleep. So this is kind of for everybody. If you have a breastfeeding partner , wife, then a lot of times, when the baby gets so exhausted and mom is holding the baby, they are routing and they are looking for the breast, but they are not really wanting the breast. So sometimes, it’s a great opportunity for dad to take baby at that moment and help rock baby to sleep. Because they don’t have that smell, they don’t have the breast, they don’t have the smell of the milk, and it can really help ease the child and baby into sleep. So there are so many ways that dads can get involved.
Robin Kaplan: Terrific. Well, when we come back we are going to be discussing ways in which the breastfeeding mom can also offer support to her partner or husband and keep those lines of communication open after the baby’s born. So we’ll be right back.
Alright, and we are back. So, obviously support is not a one way street in a new family. And while a new mother needs encouragement and assistance as she enters her role as parent, so does her partner and spouse. Panelists, I’m going to open this up to you. What type of support or comfort did your breastfeeding wife or partner offer to you when she was breastfeeding and when maybe, you were offering that first bottle to your child?
Mark Ranallo: You know, she was very supportive, like..., much like a cheerleader, kind of like we talked about, I was being to her, but it really made me feel good when I was offering the bottle for the first time and I got the baby to drink, like you know, some, you know at the time, I didn’t think it was a lot, like an ounce and a half or something, you know, it was very small, but, you know, it was the first time that she decided to drink some out of the bottle and it was like hi-fives all around, like”Ooh that’s awesome!“You know, and then, you know every time I do give the bottle, “Oh she drank 6 ounces.”“Wow, you did..., that phenomenal!” You know, like, ”That’s spectacular!” So, you know, it made me feel like I was capable of you know, providing food for my child and doing that kind of care. Well, you know, it was pretty cool.
Alicia Champion: You know, we..., it was a long, long time coming for us to get our son and so, when I think back on those first couple of months, even now, he’s nine months tomorrow. Danielle and I seemed to do everything together. If she was breastfeeding or if I was, you know finger feeding with the syringe, we were always up with each other, even though one could try to sleep, you know, we just didn’t want to take any time away from this miracle that we you know, had been working so many years to have. And that was, you know, that was, that was really nice and it felt like we were both equal, always, throughout this. It wasn’t until really recently, maybe in the last couple of months, when I realized that he tends to favor her, just because, you know, as our wonderful acupuncturist, Jamie said, “She’s the fridge!” And you know you’d be mad if your fridge just walked out of the room too! So but in the beginning we really did everything together. You know, Danielle would be next to the glider while I was feeding him. And you know, when she was nursing, you know, I would sit up and just be awake and just stare at him and you know, just rub his feet. But you know, the support thing from her, is more of a recent thing, you know, just reassuring me that, you know, he doesn’t love me less, you know, she’s just the fridge and that’s what it’s all about, so my ego is fine and I get it, you know, but yeah. More of a recent thing.
Jonathan Wilt: Yeah, I think like human instinct, when you see your wife or your partner feeding, and you see your baby’s immediate comfort and they pass them off to you, and he’s screaming his head off, you’re not the person he’s used to. You’re like, well, I just can rely on my wife then. But then you realize your role is to also assist them. And it’s easy to fall back and say, “Here, you take them, you’ve got the equipment and I don’t. You’ve got the goods and I don’t”. Like you say, “You’re the fridge.” Because of that comfort level. But it was nice that she was kind of walking me through the steps, “Hold him this way, try the bottle this way”, she was trying to coach me, which I didn’t think would really be necessary. A guy would hold him, give him the bottle, you see it happen all the time but, yeah, it’s a whole process. And I think she slowly, kind of like, was stroking my ego, like “You can..., we have to do this, it’s not just me, it’s going to be a partnership, all the way through.” So, I need to learn. And, hard as it was, you know, I think as a guy, you’re kind of macho, “Oh, I can do anything,” you realize you are limited pretty early on. You don’t have the skill-set yet. But they do..., she did coach me slowly and I learned how to calm him down, how to wear him and how to soothe him, yeah, there were late nights and he was screaming at me, but we got through it and we still do, so...
Buddy Owen: Yeah, much the same. I couldn’t wait to be a dad. I was so excited about being a dad. So, once we had Grace and Alex was breastfeeding, we took every opportunity we could for me to do whatever I could to help out but also just to bond with Grace. So, whether that was bottle feeding or just soothing in the night when Alex needed to sleep, or whatever it was, she was wanting me to be as much of a part as I could and I took every opportunity to do that.
Robin Kaplan: That’s terrific. Cassidy, what else would you add to this list of how breastfeeding moms can support their partners?
Cassidy Freitas: You guys all touched upon, touched upon some really great things and I think that a big piece of this is we have to remember that when the baby comes out, yes, they have that sucking reflex, but breastfeeding is a learning process. You guys touched upon that a little bit earlier. The bottle is a learning process too. And so, as the breastfeeding mother, I think that it’s really important to just allow that process to happen. I think it’s really easy to micromanage and as you had said earlier, you know, Johnathan, that it was really helpful the tips that she gave you and she was your cheerleader. At the same time, probably wouldn’t be as helpful if she was like over your shoulder, like “You’re not doing this right, you’re not doing this right, do this, try this, do this!” So, just kind of allowing the process to happen and you know, understand that dad’s going to have his own way too and it’s a learning process for dad and for baby just like it was for the mom while they were learning how to breastfeed.
Robin Kaplan: Yeah, that’s one thing that I..., some really good advice that I had received from a few friends of mine is that to not micromanage my husband because I’m really good at that and I remember that because my son was born in July, Fantasy Football started at the end of August and so Sunday was my day to go and so I would pump and I would leave a bottle or two for my husband and my son and I would go out. And my husband never called, he took care of it. I got home, he just said, yeah, he ate this, he slept and whatever, but I didn’t ask what he did. And because of that, my kids are now almost seven and five and I can go out of town to a conference for five days, and I know that my husband, you know I don’t know if they going to have in and out a couple of times..., but it doesn’t matter. You know, they are safe, they are healthy, they had a really good time with dad, they bonded and so I think it’s really important that the advice that I received was back off and let my husband or you know, allow your partner in this process to figure out their own way. And Cassidy, like you would explain too, like maybe pouring water on top of your daughter’s head, she actually enjoys, where you would have never tried that. And I think that that is a really valuable lesson.
Cassidy Freitas : And it’s all about building that confidence. You know when you are new breastfeeding mom, if you have somebody always telling you what to do and how to do it, that confidence isn’t allowed to develop and sort of flourish. And same thing goes for dads, whose trying to gave the bottle, or for any caretaker. So partners, you know grandparents, nannies, for all these people that are potentially going to be giving your baby a bottle from time to time: allow them to do it. Just like, we were allowed to breastfeed. You know and we were allowed to have that process, that learning process, that learning curve, you know because it doesn’t happen right away and just allow it to happen so that that person can build the confidence that you know, is necessary. That the baby is also going to pick up on.
Robin Kaplan: Well thank you so much Cassidy for your insight into this important part of breastfeeding which is partner support. Thank you.
Cassidy Freitas : Thank you for having me.
Robin Kaplan: Here’s an email we got, from one of our listeners.
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Hi Boob Group. I’m currently breastfeeding my 11 month old baby and my family keeps asking if I’m going to wean her once she turns 1 year old? I just listened to your episode about how breast milk still has nutritional value after a baby turns a year old. I was wondering where I can find articles about these benefits so that I can share them with my family members next time they bring up the topic. Do you have any recommendations? Sincerely, Rebecca from Washington.
Hi Rebecca, thanks for your question. Yes, there are many resources on line, that discuss the nutritional value of breast milk after the first year of your baby’s life. I have a few on my website, actually, which is https://www.thesandiegobreastfeedingcenter.com and it’s a great place to start. Our article: “Does Breast Milk Have Nutritional Value After a Year”, lists a bunch of statistics from a research article by Dewy in 2001, in the Pediatric Clinics of North America Journal. This article states that in the second year of life, 448 mm of breast milk provides 29% of your baby’s energy requirements, 43% of protein requirements, 36% of calcium requirements, 75 % of Vitamin A requirements, 76% or foliate requirements, 94% of Vitamin B12 requirements and 60% of Vitamin C requirements. That is a lot of nutritional value in that amount of breast milk. Next, Kelly Mom has a huge list of research article on her website, on a page titled “Breastfeeding Past Infancy”. Here you can find resources about the Nutritional and Immunological benefits of breast milk past a year plus all of the additional benefits has for both mom and baby after a year. After scanning over these 50 plus articles on her website, you should have all of the resources to convince your family members, that breastfeeding beyond a year is a tremendous gift you can give to your baby. Lastly, I thought you might enjoy connecting with other moms online about their experiences breastfeeding beyond infancy. A few of my favorite articles are “Enjoy It While Lasts”, on the Slacker Mom Blog. “Yes, She’s Four and Yes, She Still Breastfeeds”, on the Normal Like Breastfeeding Blog, “And The Last Time That Never Was”, on the Blactating Blog. I hope that this researches were helpful. Thanks so much for your email, Rebecca.
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