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How BMI Impacts Breastfeeding
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LEILANI WILDE: As a new mom, we often wonder how we need to eat while pregnant and after baby arrives so that we can offer the best nutrition for our baby and ourselves. Does it really matter what we put into our bodies? What does every mom need to know?
Today we’re going to talk about how our Body Mass Index impacts our breastfeeding. We’re here with Francesca Orlando, a Board Certified Holistic Nutritionist. This is the Boob Group.
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LEILANI WILDE: So today in our studio, we have our expert Francesca. Can you tell us a little bit about yourself?
FRANCESCA ORLANDO: Hi everyone. I have a little bit of an accent. I’m from Rome, Italy born and raised. I move to San Diego, California in 2006 when I married the love of my life full on American Mutt Steve. I’ve been a nutritionist for seven years.
I am a holistic nutritionist. I’m also a mom of a 16 month old beautiful baby boy. I’m also a fuzzy mom. So I have two dogs and a cat. I’m now very interested in pregnant nutrition, post natal nutrition, raising healthy children. Thank you for having me.
COLLEEN JONES: My name is Colleen. I am 30 years old. I am currently a student studying to become a lactation consultant. I have two children, a five year old daughter and a six month old son.
SUNNY GAULT: They’re tearing the studio with us.
LEILANI WILDE: So you might hear them peeping.
SUNNY GAULT: Yes.
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SUNNY GAULT: Okay. So before we start our episode today, we’re going to talk all about BMI and breastfeeding. I thought we kind of lighten the mood a little bit. There was a post out from a blogger. I don’t know if you guys have heard of the blog Carriage before Marriage. I think that’s such a catchy title.
Amy who writes for that website, she came out with a post. She sometimes posts to Pop Sugar and this was something that I’ve picked up from Pop Sugar. She entitled it: “Things that breastfeeding can get you out of.” Okay and I thought this was really funny because we all know about the health benefits of breastfeeding. We talk about that all the time here on The Boob Group.
She says: “She’s here to share some of the lesser known perks of breast feeding and that is stuff you can totally get out of because you have to breastfeed your baby.” I thought some of these were so funny. I am so guilty of some of this stuff. One of the things she said is: “Bed time routine for the older kids.” She said she has a preschooler. That it just takes forever for her child to get to sleep. So sometimes you may have to escape to go do some breastfeeding. You can get out of the routine for the older kids when they’re just driving you crazy.
She also says: “The dishes.” I would probably just broaden that to say any kind of household chore you don’t want to do. I think you can probably get out of it by saying: “I’m just going to sneak out to side to pump.” I think the baby is calling me. I think I hear the baby.
She says: “Making small talks.” This is probably one of my favorites. I swear I have totally done this. That is when someone’s trying to make small talk with you and you’re just like: “I’m going to go escape. I got to go and breastfeed my baby.” When you want to leave a party early or I’ve done it on the phone. Is anyone done that on the phone? You couldn’t breastfeed. It looks like
LEILANI WILDE: Baby’s calling, I got to go.
FRANCESCA ORLANDO: Poking the baby.
LEILANI WILDE: Let the baby make some noise.
FRANCESCA ORLANDO: Make some noise so I can get off this phone call.
SUNNY GAULT: Then she also says listening to solicitors. So if like someone comes to your door, she says: “The best way to get them to like leave your steps immediately is have a fuzzy baby in your arms.”
LEILANI WILDE: We have a sign that says: “Baby’s sleeping. You wake the baby; you rock the baby back to sleep.” Nobody ever rings the bell.
SUNNY GAULT: No one ever knocks down the door ever. Yes. So those are some of the things. She mentioned more things on her post but I thought I kind of give a shout out to it because it’s just so funny. There are some definite perks to breastfeeding besides the nutritional and the more stuff that we talk about. So again it’s Carriage before Marriage and it’s written by Amy. So check it out.
LEILANI WILDE: Today on The Boob Group, we’re discussing: “How BMI impacts breastfeeding.” Our expert, Francesca Orlando is a Board Certified Holistic Nutritionist here in San Diego, California. Thank you for joining us Francesca.
FRANCESCA ORLANDO: Thank you for having me.
LEILANI WILDE: Welcome to our show. How important is it to eat right when we are pregnant?
FRANCESCA ORLANDO: Extremely important. I’m going to say: “We usually think – she has a very healthy diet because her hair and nails look so good.” Well, actually every single cell of the body, every hormone, every neurotransmitter is made out of what we eat. If we eat a healthy diet, we will have a healthy body. If we don’t eat a healthy diet, we wouldn’t have a healthy body.
Same thing with pregnancy, healthy moms who eat right and exercise during pregnancy have beautifully healthy baby and moms who eat junk food will have babies that are less healthy – colicky, fussy, babies who have food intolerances and food allergies. So on and so forth. Of course, we impact everything from the skeletal system to the mouth and teeth so it’s very interesting.
SUNNY GAULT: Because your nutrition does impact, because the body is changing and growing with that baby inside. So you need to protect the baby.
FRANCESCA ORLANDO: Exactly. If we do not eat right, the fetus will take what it can from the mom’s reserves depleting us. That’s why there’ s we use to space children two-three-four years apart just to allow the body to replenish all of the nutrients that we’re going to be utilize during pregnancy. It’s a practice that is long being lost unfortunately.
That’s why we see second kids and third kids who need braces who have faces done the first kids just because they have less of a nutrient source from the mom that they can utilize upon when the mother is pregnant with them.
SUNNY GAULT: Interesting. I didn’t even know about that.
LEILANI WILDE: Very cool. Well, I’m glad you’re here because we had a lot of good questions for you.
FRANCESCA ORLANDO: Awesome.
LEILANI WILDE: So is there a balance nutrition that we should be looking for?
FRANCESCA ORLANDO: What does balanced mean?
LEILANI WILDE: When you think about and you read about well how much protein, how much calcium, how much fruit and how much vegetable those kinds of things.
FRANCESCA ORLANDO: So I’m going to say we need to strive to achieve “balance” through – I’m going to say five to seven days span and not to try to be perfect everyday because that usually gets us in trouble. We are unfortunately bombarded with the wrong nutritional advice when it comes to pregnancy; probably when it comes to every stage of life.
We are now told to put women who are in child bearing age or even pregnant on a low fat diet to avoid that they gain too much weight which unfortunately is wrong advice. It’s a harmful advice if you ask me because the developing fetus and the pregnant mother needs plenty of healthy fatty acids and fat soluble vitamins in order to build a healthy baby without having to tap on to her own reserves in terms of calcium source and Vitamin D source and so on and so forth.
If we look at traditional tribes that we’re studies during the 1900 and the 21st Century, what we see in those populations that are virtually free from disease who have beautiful healthy babies and beautiful healthy adults. We talk about population spanning from the Inuit Alaska to the Masai in Africa to Peruvian Populations and Swiss Villagers. What we find is a variation of the diet. Diets that go from 80% fat diet to 60% carbohydrate diet. So there’s not a one diet that is good for everyone.
It’s all based and dependent upon our genes, where we live, what the territory, what the land provides us with in terms of veggies, in terms of fowl, in terms of fish, in terms of animals, husbandry. Our genetic predisposition to be able to metabolize, digest and stimulating and utilize certain compounds versus others and also the type of physical activity that we do.
So there isn’t a formula that’s written in stone. I could tell you: “We need X amount of proteins and X amount of fats.”
But I can’t because it really depends on:
• Where we are
• What we do
• Where we come from.
Now what I can tell you is that we definitely need more proteins during pregnancy than we do during any other stage of life apart from a growing child. That’s just because proteins are the building blocks of the body. So we need almost double the amount of protein that we would need in a normal pregnant stage to build a healthy baby. But we also need a host of fatty acids for healthy cell membranes, healthy hormones and healthy neurotransmitters.
We need fatty acids and fat soluble, vitamins to create the baby’s brain, the baby’s neurological system, the baby’s skeletal system. So the common advice of following a low fat diet and utilizing fat-free dairy food – 11 servings of low fat grains and so on and so forth. It’s actually a counterproductive one.
LEILANI WILDE: Colleen, did you put much importance in the way you ate when you’re pregnant?
COLLEEN JONES: When I was pregnant, I definitely clean up my diet more than say when I was not pregnant. I made sure I ate more vegetables because I’m not always very good at that. I made sure I didn’t eat fried foods as often or just little changes like that. I won’t say it was super dramatic because I was really sick both pregnancies very early on.
It got to the point where the doctor said: “If all you can eat is McDonald’s Chicken Nuggets, you need to be eating McDonald’s Chicken Nuggets.” But after the morning sickness and stuff passed, I was definitely a lot more aware of what I was putting in my body versus not caring so much if there’s not another person growing inside of me.
LEILANI WILDE: Francesca, does it make a difference what our BMI’s body mass index?
FRANCESCA ORLANDO: It really doesn’t. Unfortunately, the BMI is one of those measurements that conventional nutrition, dietetics utilizes. But it really is no indicator of health or lack of thereof. There you can take your average athlete, your average sprinter or your average weight lifter who by the BMI will be overweight if not obese just because they have significant muscle mass. Then you can have your average what we call skinny fat.
So a person who has the right BMI as per the conventional wisdom but they have unknown favorable composition of fat tissue versus muscle tissue. So they have very little mass. They’re pudgy. They have more fat but because they weigh less than a fit person, they will be okay BMI-wise compared to the athlete that I mentioned before and that could be overweight. What really is important in terms of health or lack of thereof when we are pregnant and when we are breastfeeding is our hormone.
Insulin resistance and Diabetes and other metabolic diseases like polycystic ovaries for example which do stem or do have a component that is linked to body weight. If I make sense, those usually are the diseases that we need to watch out when a woman decides to get pregnant because they can cause infertility. They can cause high risk pregnancies especially if the woman has Type 2 Diabetes and it’s on medication. She’s on medication or of course the Type 1 Diabetes which is an auto immune type of disease.
Then insulin resistance and diabetes are also laying to lower milk production later when the baby comes. So those are more of the numbers that I want to look at when I work with a pregnant woman and not just the BMI. Of course if somebody comes to me and she’s already overweight, I will try to make sure that she doesn’t gain a disproportionate amount of weight.
But here’s the thing, if the woman gains weight on a super healthy diet, I’m going to say go for it because you’re nourishing yourself and you’re nourishing your baby. Probably, she’s nourishing herself in a way that she’s never done before. As we know, being overweight is a sign of malnutrition. The number of calories that we eat doesn’t necessarily mean that we’re eating good nutrients; a lot of people who are overweight or obese are starved for essential nutrients.
So I would rather somebody puts on more weight eating the right diet than they starve themselves with celery stick and water so that they do not gain more than the 20 pounds that their OB GYN recommended.
LEILANI WILDE: There’s a lot of misinformation and it’s really great to have you here to help us understand better what it is that we need to do for our bodies and for our babies.
FRANCESCA ORLANDO: Yes, absolutely.
LEILANI WILDE: When we come back, we will discuss with Francesca how to feed your body correctly with good nutrition and balance it out with exercise when it comes to breastfeeding and beyond. We will be right back.
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LEILANI WILDE: Welcome back to the show. We’re here with Francesca Orlando, a Board Certified Holistic Nutritionist and we’re discussing how BMI or lack of right? How it impacts our breastfeeding experience. Francesca, how do we choose the right food?
FRANCESCA ORLANDO: When we are a breastfeeding mother?
LEILANI WILDE: Yes, when we are breastfeeding.
FRANCESCA ORLANDO: So there are no studies in the human model that show that breast milk composition changes according to diet. Unfortunately or luckily, we do not conduct experiments on pregnant, breastfeeding moms. But there are plenty of studies in the animal models that show us that what the animal ate before being milk will change the composition of the breast milk.
Also the stress to which the animals put under and the living conditions will change, will be the difference between a healthy cup of milk and a less optimal light beverage. Let’s put it this way. So definitely, knowing that whatever we eat is going to pass through the breast milk to our babies and knowing that everything we eat will influence whether our baby’s healthy or not. It’s very important that we continue following healthy guidelines not only for the nine months of pregnancy actually 10 months, 40 weeks.
But also until we wean our babies and hopefully we will establish healthy eating habits that will be with us until the rest of our days. So definitely things to be cognizant of trans-fatty acids and all sorts of manmade fats are very harmful for our own health but also for baby’s health. Anything that is processed and has colorings and dies and preservatives, we are a living experiment. The food supply that we have right now that we’ve been eating in the past 60 or 70 years is something that is totally new in human kind.
So let’s say our evolution is about a mile okay. So for a mile, we have been eating real foods – foods that have no packages, foods that have no labels. Foods that don’t scream: “Hey eat me. I’m low fat. I’m low sugar. I’m low this. I’m high that.” Right? Then for one meter, for 30 inches, for the history – we would be needing Twinkies and we would be needing Nestle. We would be needing Monte Santo. We would be needing GMO’s and we would be needing processed soy. Okay?
So the way those foods act upon our bodies as now being studied yet but we know that they are harmful because of the rise in cancer. They are harmful because of the rise in metabolic diseases. Centro Max, Diabetes; I think the statistics say that about 20% before the age of six are now on an SSRI Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor which is Prozac Anti Depressant.
LEILANI WILDE: Okay.
FRANCESCA ORLANDO: When in the history of mankind that we have children who were depressed to the point of needing medication. If I have the blues, my mom would be kicking me out of the house and say: “Go and play in the sand. Go get some physical exercise and then eat an apple and then I’ll see you at dinner.”
I’m going to say when it comes to nutrition, what we know from science is that: “Healthy nutrients do not come out of a box.” Healthy foods don’t scream. Healthy foods are not fortified because real foods the way nature intended are already come with a host of nature-made minerals and vitamins. They are not stripped refine process and then enrich with a handful of synthetic vitamins and minerals. Here’s the issue: “Try to eat foods the way nature intended and you can never go wrong.”
LEILANI WILDE: So in order to do that, I mean are we looking for ingredients that we are cooking ourselves? Ingredients that have maybe have two or three actual things that we know what they are – description wise.
FRANCESCA ORLANDO: The word ingredient is the key. When cooking for my family, when shopping for my family, I follow the perimeter of the supermarket. As I was saying before, real food has no label. So I will buy the produce. I will buy the fruit. I will buy the protein in form of fish and meat and some cured salami because I’m from Italy. Maybe some Prosciutto or Mozzarella and that’s what we eat in my house. Okay.
When you venture in the inner isles of the supermarket and you decided to buy something that’s coming out of a box, my advice to you – my wish would be that you don’t do that. But if you decide to do that because it’s sometimes convenience needs to be also honored, I would like you to look for something that has less than five ingredients, very low amounts of sugar.
So 10 or less grams of sugar and I would really love for you to be able to pronounce every ingredient that is in the label and know what it is. If you can’t pronounce it, it should not be on your body.
LEILANI WILDE: Colleen, were you aware of the type of food or the quality of food that you should be eating?
COLLEEN JONES: I actually was aware of shopping the perimeter of the grocery store and stuff. Because my whole life, I have struggled with maintaining healthy weight and have made effort to try to eat healthier. Sometimes I succeed more than others but those are all tips that have been given to me in the past.
LEILANI WILDE: Do you find it hard to keep up with that kind of lifestyle especially with breastfeeding your baby out of the convenient sake?
COLLEEN JONES: Out of convenience sake, it was a little harder to do it. But I actually find it easier to do when I’m pregnant or breastfeeding because it’s about more than just me; whereas if it’s just me, it’s not so much. I’m just like: “Well, this is easier. I’ll be okay.” But that’s not a chance I’m as likely to take with my kids.
LEILANI WILDE: Right. It’s amazing when we become parents, the value that we put ahead of us in our children instead of ourselves, our personal selves. How about keeping your body physically fit?
FRANCESCA ORLANDO: During pregnancy?
LEILANI WILDE: After
FRANCESCA ORLANDO: In life or breastfeeding or everything?
LEILANI WILDE: Yes.
FRANCESCA ORLANDO: I think that we were not made to run marathons. I think we were made to walk long distances and sprint short distances, carry heavy weights. We would kill the mammoth and drag it all the way back to the camp. So I’m a big fan of a high intensity interval training when it comes to working out. When I’m being a little bit more on the lazy side, I’m a big fan of walking.
I’m also from Europe and we walk everywhere. The weights, the most natural to you even doing chores, taking the elevator, parking far away from the mall; we really don’t have to become like gyms. Even though I’m not saying that the gym is bad. Actually, it’s helpful for the endorphins. It’s helpful for the cardiovascular system. Just don’t take it too far.
We’ve all seen it. The people on the treadmill and the people on the stair master being at the gym judiciously day in and day out and always be the same but of the same weight or of the same shape. That is because when it comes to body shape and body weight, the diet is 80% and exercise is 20%. So we’ve got to keep that in mind. We must prevent us from over doing it.
LEILANI WILDE: Colleen, how about you? Have you put any emphasis on exercise for your baby and yourself?
COLLEEN JONES: Not as much as I would like to. Life has been very crazy since he’s been born. So this time around, exercise has not been as much a part of our life as we would like. We have made it a point since my daughter started kindergarten to when it’s not 107 degrees outside, walk to her school which is about ¾ in a mile and then walk home with her.
Usually, we do it in the morning because it’s been too hot in the afternoon. But that’s just a little thing. It’s really not that far, the baby loves to be in the stroller. By the time we get home, Katherine is like: “My shoes are full of sand. Why do we have to walk?” It’s good for you. You’re okay.
LEILANI WILDE: Excellent. Is there anything about like over exercise and that could affect your milk supply or is there a certain time that you should be if you’re thinking about will it impact your breastfeeding or change the flavor? You hear all these people making excuses with like earlier. Excuses why we have to breastfeed or we can’t do that because we’re breastfeeding. Is there any information regards to that?
FRANCESCA ORLANDO: I’m going to say too high of an expenditure of calorie will deep your milk supply. So the good thing about nature that she always knows best. That is why we do not lose the baby weight once the baby come. Actually, there are a lot of moms who will hold on to the last 10-15-20 pounds right until the day their baby’s wean or they wean their babies. Then they will lose it all at once.
That is nature’s way of ensuring that in times of famine, the mother’s body would be still able to produce a healthy fat reach milk for the baby to guarantee baby’s growth, baby’s development and of course, baby’s survival. Okay? So definitely, any exercise regimen that is targeted at losing the baby weight and fitting into our pre-pregnancy jeans two days after we’ve given birth will negatively impact milk supply.
As for the time, I’m going to say the best time that works for you is the best time to exercise. Of course if you exercise right before bed and then you have a hard time winding down, it’s because you pushed it too hard. But for a lot of people who have a hard time falling asleep and we’re not talking about baby’s keeping you up. Usually, doing some light exercise before bed stimulates endorphin production. So it will help you rest better.
Honestly, going through pregnancy and child birth is a marathon on its own. So I think that we should honor what our body’s been able to do build enough a new life. We should really take a break from exercising or that it’s not simply walking and lifting groceries and lifting your baby because we need to recover, our body’s need time to heal from pregnancy. The hormones are a mess.
If you have a vaginal birth, your body maybe went through a huge amount of trauma and so the baby is. If you have a C Section, your body went through a major surgery that you need to recover from. So what I want my new moms to understand is that: “This is not a race for who fits first in their pre-pregnancy jeans. This is a time to be in bed and sleep when your baby sleeps.”
Letting your village nourish you and your baby, letting other people coming and help, letting other people come in and do chores, cook for you and clean for you. So that all you have to do is lay in bed for as long as you want to. Be with your baby and heal from this huge accomplishment that your body was able to make.
LEILANI WILDE: Right. That’s good advice. Thank you so much Francesca and our panelists for helping us all better understand the value of eating right when it comes to breastfeeding and beyond. For our Boob Group Club Members, our conversation will continue after the end of the show.
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SUNNY GAULT: Okay. So it’s time for a segment we call Mama Hacks. It’s where you guys submit your hacks when it comes to breastfeeding and pumping, just little nuggets of information that could help other mamas out there who might be going through the same thing. This comes from Ashley Williamson. She posted this on our Facebook Page. She says: “Record baby nursing on your phone and watch the video while pumping.”
So I have heard of this before. I’ve actually heard you can take still images of your baby to specially moms that are at work and are trying to maybe you’ll only have a short period of time that you could pump where you able to sneak away or whatever to pump. But if you look at photos of your baby, I think the video is great. That may even make it more realistic. Leilani, what do you think of that?
LEILANI WILDE: Actually because it’s stimulates an action. So if you hear your baby crying, right? Or you hear your baby suckling, it’s a good visual because pumping is part of it is a visual for you.
SUNNY GAULT: Right.
LEILANI WILDE: Because some people have a hard time letting down the milk release. So that is really helpful. It’s a good training.
SUNNY GAULT: Gosh! I didn’t even think about the sound of it too. Especially when you’re kind of breastfeeding in the very beginning, it doesn’t happen to me so much now because it’s been almost two years. But like in the beginning, I felt like if I heard any baby cry, it was going to let down.
LEILANI WILDE: Yes.
SUNNY GAULT: So yes, I didn’t even think about that. But the sounds probably have a lot to do with that too. So Ashley thanks so much for sending this in.
LEILANI WILDE: That wraps up our show for today. We appreciate you listening to The Boob Group.
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