Transcript: Choosing Your Child’s Infant Car Seat

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The Parent Savers
Choosing Your Child’s Infant Car Seat
Episode 82, December 2nd, 2013


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JOHNER RIEHL: Choosing the best car seat for your little one can be a daunting process. There are so many features to choose from – how do you know which one is best for your family’s needs?

Today we’ll hear from some of the most popular brands on the market to discuss how infant car seats are changing to help keep your family safe in case of an accident. This is a special holiday edition of Preggie Pals, Parent Savers and The Boob Group live from the 2013 ABC Kids Expo.

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JOHNER RIEHL: Welcome everyone to a special live recording from the 2013 ABC Kid’s Expo. I’m Johner Rielh host of Parent Savers. In this episode we’ll be discussing some of the things to consider when choosing your infant car seat. We’re joined by some of those popular brands in the car seat industry – all of which who are providing free products to our listeners.

It’s all part of our December giveaways something really cool and we designed to award all the new moms and dads out there who survive yet another year of parenthood. You can learn more about these great products and our give-aways at the end of the show.

But, first let’s learn more about the companies that are joining us and the people who represent them. We’re joined by three representatives. We’ll start with Elizabeth. Elizabeth, tell us about yourself.

ELIZABETH JACKSON: Hi, I’m Elizabeth Jackson. I’m the chief marketing officer at Summer Infant and I’m also a mom of three children – a 13 year old-boy, 11 year old-boy and a 6 year-old girl.

JOHNER RIEHL: Nice, welcome thanks for joining us.

DANIELLA BROWN: Hello, my name is Daniella Brown and I’m the car seat safety advocate with UppaBaby. I’m a mother of two – Emilia who is four, Sarah who is two and then we have a little one on the way.

JOHNER RIEHL: Nice, congratulations.


JOHNER RIEHL: It’s great.

JEANNA RIMMER: Hi and I’m Jeanna Rimmer. I’m the director of marketing with Combi and I’m head of marketing in-product development and I’m a mom of two boys myself – Noah who is 15 and Shafer who is 10.

JOHNER RIEHL: Nice, we have three boys – a six year-old, a four year-old and then a two year-old. Quinner, Whitaker and Zyler. So, we’ve got great news around the table. We’ve got babies coming – Sunny is over there, getting ready some more babies as well

SUNNY GAULT: Just two.

JOHNER RIEHL: Two more! All right, let’s jump in with the conversation. Let’s start with Jeanna. What are some key factors parents consider before purchasing an infant car seat?

JEANNA RIMMER: I think that the most critical thing is, “Looking at your vehicle and finding a car seat that is the best fit for your vehicle.” Going out and shopping and being knowledgeable of the products out there in the market – and trying them out before you purchase. Especially with going in to the retailer, being able to bring it out into your car and dealing test fits. I think it’s critical.

JOHNER RIEHL: Most retailers let’s you do that?


JOHNER RIEHL: Okay, so you can grab it and take it out to the car.

JEANNA RIMMER: Definitely, you don’t want to buy something and it does – it’s not compatible with your vehicle.

JOHNER RIEHL: What would make a car seat knock about with a vehicle?

JEANNA RIMMER: I’m the long times especially with infant car seats because it has the base. If you use the base depending on the type of your seat that you have, bucket seats on the position where you want to place it in the vehicle. Whether if you put it behind the driver – if you put it on the middle seating position, if you’re using latch, if you’re using seatbelts.

So, if you pick a brand that you’ve researched and you really like something, it might have compatibility issues with your vehicle.

JOHNER RIEHL: It’s interesting. I think I always sort of thought that you could make any car seat compatible. It just was figuring out which one to do but it really can be incompatible.


JOHNER RIEHL: Since you’re laughing it would be, “My God, for you to talk to you when people like you.


JEANNA RIMMER: We’ve done enough. I think everybody came our way being on car seat checks and doing installations.


JEANNA RIMMER: Sometimes it just doesn’t work. We try our best to design things that worked with everything. But, there are always new cars every year that come out and there are just lots of different configurations that not everything is a perfect fit.

JOHNER RIEHL: So, how should parents find out information what are the good ways to do research – just go to the store and look at different car seats? Go online – what are some ways they can do it?

ELIZABETH JACKSON: Yes, I would say, “They should go into stores. Go online. Go to their local – it could be a fire station, a car station whether there are certified technicians that can help give some advice.” So, there’s really good fact based information out there.


ELIZABETH JACKSON: The national transportation highway association also is a website that has some good data about how different car seats perform. So, there’s a lot of really good reputable fact based information about different brands and products.

JOHNER RIEHL: I don’t know we were having our first. We definitely did it. But, then we thought we might have time to do it with the rest. We felt like we kind of knew what was going on but as it turns out from the gas looks like earlier that maybe we do have still a lot to learn. You can always keep learning and the technologies changing too right?

ELIZABETH JACKSON: Well, in the guidelines are changing. My children are older and it used to be when they had a certain weight limit. I have big babies that you could turn them forward-facing much earlier. Now, the guidelines at least a year and at least a minimum of 20 pounds – but the AAP is even recommending two years.


ELIZABETH JACKSON: So, that’s definitely change often when somebody has one child and then there’s a few years until the next child.

DANIELLA BROWN: Absolutely and you also want to think about too – if you have other children and have that car seats going to work with the other children in your car or if you have children that are in car seats and how all of those fit. If you wanted place them both in the same seat – if you’ve got mini vans or just different types of vehicle, “How all of those different car seats work with inside your vehicle?”

JOHNER RIEHL: Yes, that’s for sampling and can really help too. I feel like to see how they’re going to

JEANNA RIMMER: We actually had to buy a new car when my first was born because my husband had a cute little Miata that was a two-seater. So, you can never put infant car seats in the front seat.


JEANNA RIMMER: If you have a cute little car before you have children that is only a two-seater. The different seat, you’ve got to get a new car.

JOHNER RIEHL: It’s funny, how now sometimes you see two-seater cars and be like, “They don’t have kids.” That’s the car without the kids.

DANIELLA BROWN: Yes, the mid-life crisis car.


JOHNER RIEHL: It was funny where I was somewhere when someone was, “We could give you a ride but we only have two seats.” It just blew my mind. My gosh, they still make cars with two seats because I’m so used to all the car seats.

So, I’m just focused on the age that kids can be turned around. I think that parents kind of glam on to that. But, is weight just as important or more important to think about when turning kids around or when looking at car seats?

DANIELLA BROWN: I think too with weight what it is, “You definitely have to pay attention to what the manufacture recommends on the car seat.” They tested to those standards. There’s a reason why they’re showing that weight recommendation. Weight is important as well as with the combination of the height.

I know that at UppaBaby we recommend, we have a height as a recommendation based kind of thing where more focused on, “One’s they started reaching that one inch mark a little less than one inch mark from the top of our head rest at full up position – then at that point, it’s a key factor of looking for a new seat and obviously the weight as well.”

So, when you’re picking a seat it’s also important to especially if it’s your first one. Look at that range where it starts and where it ends because even when it starts, you don’t know when your baby is coming. You don’t know if you’re going to have a premier of four pound. It’s so critical to pay attention to that.

JOHNER RIEHL: It’s almost like age is one of the least important factors. You really need to look at the height and the weight. But, a lot of stuff I feel like it’s tied to. We have friends are, “I can’t wait until he turns one or two now.” They were going to turn the car seat around. But, really you need to look at the weight just as equally if not more.

ELIZABETH JACKSON: I think that parents are also need to let go of the need for convenience at a certain point for safety – because being able to carry the infant carrier while they’re still asleep. Right, you always want your baby to be able to sleep so people sometimes I fell pushed the limits.

JOHNER RIEHL: Definitely.

ELIZABETH JACKSON: Their child is much larger because they wanted to have that easy transportation from within the car into the stroller, a carrier with whether taking them. But, in the case of car seat safety, it should always be – safety first and the parent convenient. Your child will still take their nap at some other point, if you have to remove them.

I have been known to take a larger car seat on infant car seat, unbuckle it and carry it into an ice hockey rink for my older children’s hockey games to keep my youngest to sleep.


ELIZABETH JACKSON: So, there are still ways out there that you can keep them sleeping. But, car seat safety when they have outgrown it – definitely you need to get a new car seat.

JOHNER RIEHL: I remember with the first time putting in the car seat. We talk about going to highway patrol or the fire station to do it. It seems like it takes 45 minutes or an hour to do it. But, once you kind of learn a little bit – you know, you said, “You took a part of big car seat.” You can get better at it. Is that something you guys keep in mind when designing seats too? Like the ease of the installation or maybe taking it out or putting it back in.

ELIZABETH JACKSON: I’ll talk about that at Summer Infant. So, with our Prodigy Infant Car Seat – we really focused on installation because 7/10 car seats are installed incorrectly. Even if you go to a certified technician, reality is – you’re going to change the base from your car to mom’s car, grandma’s car in a different time. So, it’s really important regardless of what seat you use to install it correctly every single time.

So, the three things that we try to remind consumers is you want to make sure that it’s clicked. I do admit at one time, “I did not click the base.” I put the car seat in it. But, I just moved it and I was horrified with myself when I learned, “My gosh, I just driven four miles and that based wasn’t clicked in because we just moved it over.”

So, always check to make sure the base is clicked in. The second is that the level is properly levelled. The third is that is really tightened. So, there’s a tiny bit of give but not too much give. The way car seats work because first time moms don’t really know. You do want that tiny bit of give just so if there is any impact, the way car seats are designed are actually so – that they do move and help support that baby in the physics if you will.


ELIZABETH JACKSON: So, you don’t want it where it can’t move at all. That’s actually too tight. So, with our car seat, we have a little smart screen that gives you three smiley faces to let you know that with Prodigy that it’s clicked. It’s levelled and it’s tightened. But, with any car seat just make sure you do those three things.

DANIELLA BROWN: I know with the UppaBaby, the MESA – it took us three years to develop the seat. It was our first start kind of at the car seat industry, being getting great results with it. One thing with our development team which I thought was so great is that, “We’ve looked NetSA’s top five misused items.” It was installation was one of those top two.

Looking at it, what they’ve done is, “They’ve developed a system.” We called it the Smart Secure System where you are – we’ve taken our retractor system in combination with the tension indicator where the first to mark at the two together. What it is with our latch system, as tightening for example.

The retractors are grabbing the teeth of each side of each individual retractor and the system is doing all of the work for you. We have a little window that goes from red to green and when you get that green window – it’s green, green means go. It’s so simple. There’s not a lot of effort. Women find it phenomenal. I just think it was really, really key that they paid attention to that with the development teams.

JOHNER RIEHL: The security of the base is so important.

JEANNA RIMMER: It is. I think the other thing especially what’s Combi and the Shuttle is knowing that, “Most parents – we all say that we read instructions but we know that majority of the time, you don’t.”


JEANNA RIMMER: Keeping that in mind. So, really – focusing on the labelling that are on the seats that are clear, they are concise. People understand it by looking at the car seat when they’re installing it and knowing it’s not always the parent that’s installing. They might give it to a grandparent or somebody else.


JEANNA RIMMER: So, that person doesn’t have the advantage of saying, “I’m going to read the instruction manual before I pick up my grandchild.”


JEANNA RIMMER: So, that you’ve thought proper labelling – so, they thought they understand. This is what you need to do. The click, this is where the handle needs to be. This is how you put it in and here’s how it should look. So, clear concise labels with pictures and images that if anybody can walk up to that can also help to install it and install it properly as well.

JOHNER RIEHL: I’m sometimes surprise that the grandparents can even work a shopping cart sometimes – get them in that seat there and then, so do you hand off. Here’s the car seat. Here’s the base, just picture them.

DANIELLA BROWN: I’ve been a car seat tech for a while and we’ve been seeing a ton of grandparents that are coming in with car seats which I think is so great.

JOHNER RIEHL: Yes, right.

DANIELLA BROWN: Just taking that time to learn the process and understanding the importance of it. It’s great.

JOHNER RIEHL: One of the things that I really noticed here at the expo this year, and you guys have talked about it is, “The technology has evolved so much.” I think even in the past year too to make these bases so smart and easy, accessible for anybody to install safely.

ELIZABETH JACKSON: Probably, once a week when I go into the supermarket – I still see first time moms do this – where they’ll take the car seat and they’ll put it on top off where a toddler should sit in a shopping cart.


ELIZABETH JACKSON: It’s not strapped in and it’s not supposed to be on elevated surfaces that is really, really not safe. Again, I know moms want their babies to sleep as long as possible. But, that should never – a car seat should never be put on top of the shopping cart.

JOHNER RIEHL: The danger of being that it could easily fall off.


JOHNER RIEHL: Right, what if it clicked on? I’m not trying to say

DANIELLA BROWN: Exactly. People think, “They’re groove.” So, it fits here so perfectly because it kind of the same shape as what a base should be. So, I should say, “Put that car seat in the bottom of the bin, if you will.” But, more better, safer – take the baby out of the car seat and carry them.

JOHNER RIEHL: There’s so many carriers how to infant like the wraps and stuff that it would be pretty easy to make a transition to that. There are even benefits to that as well. I think we’ll take a quick break right here. We’ll talk about the portability of car seats and some more car seat safety issues. We’ll be right back.

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JOHNER RIEHL: Welcome back everybody to the special edition of Preggie Pals, Parent Savers and the Boob Group. I think it’s my first time getting to host Preggie Pals and The Boob Group. I’ll have to put that in my Linked-in profile that I’m a part-time Boob Group host and Preggie Pals.
So, we’re live from the 2013 ABC Kid’s Expo. We’re talking about infant car seat safety and choosing your car seat. We’ve got Elizabeth from the Summer Infant here, Daniella from UppaBaby and Jeanna from Combi.

So, let’s talk a little more about rear-facing and forward-facing because it’s really is, “It’s changing. There’s some confusion.” I think people get confused about rear-facing and front-facing.

ELIZABETH JACKSON: Absolutely, I think one of the biggest misconceptions in what I hear a lot of time from moms is, “Somehow, their 10 month old child is telling them that they are ready to turn around and that’s why they want to turn them around or like there’s recent recommendation for two years before you turn them forward facing in their spots of great benefits to keeping your child rear-facing as long as possible.”

JOHNER RIEHL: Yes, why is it better to be rear-facing?

JEANNA RIMMER: Part of it is – My background is actually I was a seat engineer for eight and a half years. One thing in looking at the dynamics of crash situations, if you wind up turning a child forward-facing too soon, what it is-is, “The restraint system keeps them restrained against the seat.” So, the seat if they’re using it properly, they also have a top tether.

It’s restrained against the vehicle seat and the momentum of a crash – the body wants to proceed forward and come back much like a whiplash action. If their upper body is restraint, their neck is going to experience that whole load. So, they’re more likely to snap their neck.

When they’re younger, “Their spine is still developing. Their head is still heavy.” When they’re rear-facing, the seat acts like a cocoon and then it grabs them on the way back kind of a rebound

So, that’s a whole concept of it. They even state that if adults could ride rear-facing, it could totally be the best thing for them.

ELIZABETH JACKSON: The AAP’s says that, “Children under the age of two are 75% less likely to be injured in a car crash if they’re rear-facing in their car seat. So, the stat show – it’s definitely less injuries.

JOHNER RIEHL: We’re doing all these planning for these car seats about the God forbid – do you have an accident? How common is it to have accidents? Do most families go through it at least once? Have you guys had any seeing stats on that? I always wonder that like I’m sorry to catch up.

DANIELLA BROWN: There are stats out there to be specific about it. I don’t know if I feel comfortable throwing a stat out there. There are a ton of statistics through NetSA and through Safe Kids on the percentages and the frontal, the side impact – all of that is available for those websites.

JOHNER RIEHL: Even if it’s a small percentage, it can happen to you.

DANIELLA BROWN: It can happen.

JOHNER RIEHL: It absolutely can.

JEANNA RIMMER: Yes, a lot of the things that we hear is, “My child’s large – keeping them rear-facing and it’s their legs and it’s uncomfortable and there’s not any documented proof that that is true.”


JEANNA RIMMER: Would you rather have your child have a broken leg or die in a car crash?


DANIELLA BROWN: I think keeping them rear facing ensures that, “It’s the safest position for them to be in.” So, my recommendation is to keep them rear-facing as form as possible, the AAP recommendation of two years. I’m looking at your infant car seat and what it allows.

So, looking at that when you’re buying it and knowing those recommendations and what’s going to work best for you and your child and being the safest position. If the infant seat doesn’t – there also, the next stage would be a convertible car seat which can be used forward-facing and rear-facing.

So, you can transition into that – once again, the weight of the child and moving them around and that infant car seat and carrying them in the house no longer exist. You can have that convertible car seat that stays in the vehicle. But, you can also keep it rear facing so that you can extend that life of that child being rear facing.

They have now, moving to those higher weight limits – 35 up to 40 pounds in the rear-facing position. So, definitely I would recommend once you move out of that infant seat going with the convertible but keeping it rear-facing as well.

JOHNER RIEHL: Is there such a thing as a base that front-facing car seat goes into? Is the base for just that rear-facing car seats? When new convertibles kind of have the base built in. Is that kind of how it works?

DANIELLA BROWN: Yes, there are some of that believe that are on the market that have a base that can rotate.

JOHNER RIEHL: That base can work.

DANIELLA BROWN: But, typically there’s not a stand base. It’s one whole seat, so you’ll all turn. Once it’s installed, you kind of keep it installed into the vehicle.

JOHNER RIEHL: Yes, I know when we had our new-born; I think a lot of parents do too. You transition to, “One parent sits in the back with the baby and one’s driving.” It felt weird whenever we turn the baby around or we find that we’re both in the front-seat again. But, if a car seats installed correctly – there’s no extra danger to the adult passenger back there for sitting next to the baby, are there any?

DANIELLA BROWN: As long as they’re buckled with the vehicle seat belt.

JOHNER RIEHL: As long as the adult?

DANIELLA BROWN: The adult is they could be a projectile in the vehicle and obviously, you want them to stay around just as long as well right?


DANIELLA BROWN: Mom, dad – we’re all important.

JOHNER RIEHL: I think hopefully, more people are buckling in that seat as well. I feel like for a time there was a lot in the back’s there. I need to buckle but it’s important as well. We’ve talked a little about the portability of strollers, of car seats and putting them in like the shopping cart.

I know that one feature that a lot of car seats have too is that they can buckle into a stroller-based as well. Does that make them less safe? Is that a feature that you guys look for a recommend for having products that fit into that for the portability?

ELIZABETH JACKSON: There are a lot of different travel systems that come with a car seat in the stroller. A lot of people choose to have a stand-alone stroller or just the base that car seats can go into. They’re pretty universal adapters.


ELIZABETH JACKSON: But, looking for the compatibility between the car seat and the stroller that you want – is definitely something parents look at.

JEANNA RIMMER: They all have to be tested so that they have to meet the requirements ASTM requirements and different types of regulations that ensure that the car seat and the stroller, the frame that they all are attached properly and rigorous testing that goes through.

So, from a manufacture standpoint – we really do test all of those products and do complaints testing and regulatory testing. Whatever our internal test are that often exceed what those regulatory requirements are to make sure that those attachments from that infant car seat to the stroller are all really secure.

DANIELLA BROWN: I know with UppaBaby being primarily a stroller company up until we launched the MESA. It was very important for us to have that travel system for our customers – with both the CRUZ and the VISTA and because of convenience and the portability of it. But also, it was just and the safety of it too – taking into account all the testing that goes into the stroller and the attachment features that it’s all about the safety.


JEANNA RIMMER: Yes and being a manufacture too as well, our strollers and car seats – we looked to at Combi that making sure that our Shuttle can work with all of our strollers. Obviously, it creates a travel system and it’s a nice look as moms go in and when they’re looking for a travel system – they want those things that match.

They don’t want one stroller and then it doesn’t match the car seat and that was different. I mean it’s very important especially for a first time moms to have that whole family look. So, we as manufacturers make sure – it’s looks, it’s pretty, it has nice fashions. It works with our Cosmo, our Cabria – whatever stroller that we do have.

ELIZABETH JACKSON: In Summer was the exact opposite. So, we started with a car seat. We really sold it in the end meet need of the ease of installation and now, have launched a full range of different strollers that are stand-alone strollers or part of the travel system to match those as well.

JOHNER RIEHL: It’s almost kind of expected that there’s going to be some sort of travel system now for the stroller to go into – to do the conversion which it’s great that you guys are meeting that challenge and creating safe stuff that certified it’s that parents can trust. But, I’m sure you guys see it to.

Let’s talk about re-using car seats because I thought I heard once that it was illegal to resell or re-use a car seat and I don’t know if that’s harsh. I know that we’d go. There’s a Swap-Meet in San Diego called the Parent Connection Swap-Meet. You see people maybe selling car seats that they are done using. People borrow car seats or pass them on to one another. But, there’s something that feels weird about that. Is that kind of – or my spidy sense is right that we’re using car seats as kind of not recommended?

DANIELLA BROWN: You know, it all depends and it’s ironic that you say that because our CEO, one of our CEO, just said the same thing to me yesterday where there was something similar posted about, “I have a car seat this and that”. She had posted back, “do you happen to know the serial number, the date of manufacture? Do you know the history of it?” It’s just this information is important if we’re going to be passing it down. So, I think if you have the manufacturing date. You know it’s not expired, you know that

JOHNER RIEHL: Sorry, car seats expire?

DANIELLA BROWN: Yes, they do. Every manufacture has an expiration date. So, that’s key. It should be on the labelling. If you can’t find it on the labelling contact the manufacture.

JOHNER RIEHL: What makes it expire? I’m sorry to interrupt but what would make a car seat expire? I guess the foam degen?

ELIZABETH JACKSON: Over time, all the materials they can degrade. It’s a product that it’s outside and gets exposure to the sun. Over time, plastics or those of different types of things that the foam, the you know polystyrene the EPP or EPS that the energy-absorbing foam and typically most manufactures just depending it’s six, seven some up to nine years can be the expiration date.


JEANNA RIMMER: Again, overtime new technologies, new things come out – do you want to put your child in something better and improved and new materials.


JEANNA RIMMER: You don’t want something that’s 10, 15 years old.

ELIZABETH JACKSON: A car seat should never ever be re-used if it’s been in a car crash even if it’s just small fender-bender. Just you never know that’s the risk of getting one.

JOHNER RIEHL: Right, something may

JEANNA RIMMER: A garage sale if you will – as you don’t know the history of that car seat.

DANIELLA BROWN: If there’s a question always contact the manufacturer – always. It’s always like a good rule of them is that if you have something in question, “I wasn’t going on that much or sorry that fast.” My airbag didn’t go off. You know, talk it through with customer service and see if they can help you out.

JOHNER RIEHL: Is there any sort of logged like do police departments and accidents reports have to log information on car seats or anything?


DANIELLA BROWN: That’s a great idea. But, I don’t know if there’s a law that they have to and if you’re buying in a garage sale or swap-meet. I’m trying to sell a car seat do you think I’m going to be honest with you?

JOHNER RIEHL: Yes, right it’s true.

ELIZABETH JACKSON: Again, you’ve mentioned – it may look perfect on the outside like brand new but the point of a car seat is, “It’s there to protect your child.” So, if it’s on a crash – you may not physically see any damage to the seat but it has protected your child. It’s absorbed those crash forces and it’s done its job.

I don’t know that it has another opportunity to do what’s supposed to do again after that first crash – even as minimal as it maybe; it’s absorbed those crash forces and protected your child.

DANIELLA BROWN: Sometimes there’s internal, there’s the mechanisms inside. There’s plastic inside. Sometimes, you look at the car seat from an outside stand-point even if taking the trim cover off and you’re wondering, “It looks fine and everything but internally, there could be something.”

JOHNER RIEHL: Well, let’s wrap up the conversation. Talking about, “You talked about taking the trim cover off” what kind of considerations you guys make for cleaning the car seat to recommendation you have because they’re going to get dirty. Is that something that’s also top in mind when you do design and just be able to take them apart?

JEANNA RIMMER: Absolutely, machine washable is very critical especially for an infant car seat because everything can happen in there. The other point is to design it so it’s easy for their mom to renew. I remember that I’ve had when my children where younger – car seats. They would get sick in them and you’re digging your hands in the middle of it trying to remove that cover and the harness isn’t all that type of thing.

Now, it’s so much easier – you’ve got it a hook and loop that you can just quickly just pull off the car seat and not get to disgusting with it. That’s one of the things in the design just as important the safety features of the seat that held those soft goods wrap around that – that base and that seat so that you can easily remove it and clean it.

ELIZABETH JACKSON: Q tips are a really great tool for parents. They have a need to clean car seats or high chairs anything that has little grooves.

JOHNER RIEHL: Is it possible that parents can damage their car seats while they’re cleaning it?

DANIELLA BROWN: Yes! Well, I don’t know if it’s necessarily damaging the car seat – you manufactures take that into account. I think they try to make it easily, as easy as possible for the parents.


JEANNA RIMMER: To re-assemble.

DANIELLA BROWN: Right, to re-assemble. Yes and even to disassemble as well. The reason why when you said, “Harming it” I kind of just jumped on that was because I don’t know about the other manufactures but I know with the MESA our seat belt manufacture says that the seatbelt shouldn’t be removed and shouldn’t be going into a washing machine. It should be spot-treated because it can ruin the degradation of the webbing.

So, there’s also a high misuse rate as well with the re-threading your harness. So, we actually have one unit. It’s a Zone One Unit. Harness systems so it can’t be removed on purpose.

JOHNER RIEHL: Got it and I see you don’t want people taking that out.

JEANNA RIMMER: One of the things to – if you have to, you have to remove the harness. What I recommend is, “Everybody has a smart phone.” Take a picture of it before you start taking it apart.

JOHNER RIEHL: Usually, you’re ending up and like where is this harness go and how did this work? You can refer back to that picture and go, “Okay, I’m putting it together correctly.”

ELIZABETH JACKSON: Don’t use extra WD40 or a few things to buckle it stuff that you’re doing a great thing buying.

DANIELLA BROWN: Contact the manufacture if there are any questions ever.

JOHNER RIEHL: All right. Well, thanks so much for joining us. Thanks so much for the conversation. Thanks for listening. Hopefully you guys learned some good information.

Let me tell you guys a little more about these giveaways that we’re giving. All these companies are offering some great giveaways to our listeners. It’s part of our December giveaways designed for award new moms and dads for surviving another year of parenthood. Can you tell me a little bit more about what you brought that we’re giving-away?

JEANNA RIMMER: Sure! Combi is giving away our Shuttle Infant Car Seat which goes from birth to 35 pounds and 33 inches. It has side impact protection. It has an anti-rebound bar. The base has level indicators so it’s easy to make sure that you got a proper install. It has self-adjusting base that you can adjust and get the proper positioning for your child. We’ve got several different colours that the winner will be able to choose.

JOHNER RIEHL: That’s awesome

DANIELLA BROWN: UppaBaby is giving away an UppaBaby MESA – our weight range is from four to 35 pounds. We have a removal in and you can insert integrated side impact protection that travels with your child at all times. No thread harness as well as our smart secure system with our latch and our tension indicator that is also part of that which is also a key with seatbelt installation as well.


ELIZABETH JACKSON: Summer Infant is giving the Prodigy infant car seat. This has a five star ease of use rating from NetSA. It has an insert that’s removable as well. It does have the same weight limit from four to 35 – so, that’s great if you have a premium particular and up to 32 inches. The smart screen is the real key piece that reminds you that it has click level, tighten. It has safely installed each time.

It also has the one adjust which is to adjust to the height of the child’s shoulders. It’s the same technology used in ambulances actually because you’ve all have different size people. So, even as the child grows – there’s never ever any re-threading necessary. So, that’s the Prodigy Infant Car Seat we’re giving away.

JOHNER RIEHL: These are so cool. I hope you’re listening or as excited as we are able to provide these and thank you so much for doing them. So, to win these products what you need to do – is this at the episode page on our website that you listen to now. So, that it work on Preggie Pals, Parent Savers, The Boob Group and click on giveaways. What will do is – after this week and so we released our next episode – we’re collecting entries and we select a winner at random. We’ll contact you via e-mail.

Thanks to all the companies who joined us for this episode. After the show we will have some bonus content from members of our clubs. We’ll be discussing what infant car seat feature seem to be most popular among new parents.

For more information about our club – visit the member section on our websites:


Coming up next week – we’re going to do another awesome episode live from the ABC Kids Expo. We’re going to talk about maximizing your maternity and post partum close. Thanks so much for listening.

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